If anyone is interested - game runs on Linux under Wine perfectly.
Even more, it runs natively, albeit without sound due to not having Linux libraries in FMOD.
What interesting is that fmod-jni.jar seems to be build with Mac libraries. So if someone have Mac Book on hands you may try run this game on it. (!!!No guaranties as I have no idea how Mac works with OpenGL!!!).
Games seems like a lot of fun (around 2 hours in) and in very good shape for a beta. All minor problems already outlined in comments below. (Especially agreed on high variability in mystic usefulness)
Hey, that's awesome that it works in Wine! The game has been working on mac internally for a while, and we plan to support mac and linux soon. Glad you're having a good time!
Heya. I finally got the game yesterday morning. Straight away: brilliant job, I love the art style and storybook character of it all. I also spent way too many hours on it right off the bat. Since this is a beta I wanted to share some first observations I made along the way and question that formed for me:
- Transformations. As far as I could tell the only one that seemed to have an impact other than visuals so far was the fire-touched. Turned my archer right into an epic sneak thief with fireballs. Not everything necessarily has to be so drastic, obviously, but is it planned for crow-touched and so on to have some effects (maybe just a stat boost or something) as well?
- Family relations & bosses have already been mentioned by others, so I'll just include them to second that. Could generally use a bit more work. I ran into the "mother in the party, but meeting the random mother" event just as a poster below. It was quite funny.
- Related to that, how about a way to *remove* members from the party permanently? Either by rejecting them or sending older ones off to early retirement. A "send away / home" button of sorts. Right now, things get very cluttered in chapter 4 & 5. If I'm only really using my "main 5", personally, I'd like a way to send off most others (other than getting them killed on purpose, which so far seems to be the only way to do it).
- Going with that: I'm not sure what I think of "child of hero X" that joins the party having a set class. It always seems to be one I *don't* need at that moment, like that 3rd mystic no one asked for. Then again, this has forced me to play some unusual party combinations I wouldn't have tried otherwise - which might be the intention? I can definitely live with it if that's the case, but I also see the potential for it to be an annoyance for someone less flexible or creative with builds. Not everyone will think just to stick a bow and that 3rd mystic. A compromise could be a special event or place where someone can be re-trained into another class. Stick a hefty LP cost on it (will probably reset their level as well, because of the abilities) so players would still be highly encouraged to instead make do with what they have, but the possibility would be there. Just an idea off the top of my head.
- Mystics. They can be brilliant - and then there are those 5 battles in a row, where all that's around is stone and "calcify". It's not a problem, just an observation of (probably) bad RNG luck. I've gone to sticking a bow on all my mystics in case. Maybe this situation could be helped by rethinking the spells available a bit. Like a "minor stone throw" added next to calcify, something on plants.. just so they can stick to their role and still be useful, even if it's just shredding armour or a crowd control ability like "shackle" for example ("entangle" on plants, say). Nothing that effects the balance too much, obviously. Just something for them to do within their class abilities.
- Glitches: I only came across a single one through the 2 campaigns I've played so far. In the story panel where your character becomes flame-touched. There's story, then the battle for that tile, and after that more story. In the one after the fight, another party member commented on my flame-touched character and "if we're just going to ignore this" - except they weren't actually talking to my flame-touched as intended. The panel showed another character (one that became infected with the green-stuff.. elm-touched? way earlier), and that elm-touched one responded as if they were the flame-touched person. An obvious mix-up.
Bit of a textwall, but hopefully helpful as well. Away from these, I really don't have anything to say for now other than I'm having a great time playing. I'll check back with feedback if I notice something else though. :)
* Yeah, transformations, we do want those to be game changers. We'll work on making them more flavorful. * family and bosses definitely. * removing members - interesting, I like the idea of early retirement that gives you campaign-level bonuses, like, "go found a new town" or "set up a dojo" or something like that. * more control over children - that makes sense, but feels less urgent than some of the other priorities... Something we'd want to get around to eventually though * mystics - yeah... some mystic abilities (ignite, arches) try to solve this, but I hear what you're saying... I wonder if Calcify could give +physical damage instead of +warding, which is sortof garbage on mystics anyway..... weird thought.... then your mystic could shift to being a melee beast in the right circumstances... * field of fire bug - we are tracking that one, should have a fix in next patch. Bugfixes will always be high priority.
I'm definitely looking forward to that, the transformation idea is really cool. Rest sounds good as well. I like the idea for both early retirement and the mystic (as long as it's still balanced, obviously). The children really aren't much of a priority, just something I noticed.
Hm not planned currently, but also not out of the realm of possibility. It would be a lot of work to adapt our interface to be mobile friendly, but/and maybe we could make some simplifactions also. If we are successful, we'll strongly consider it.
The characters in this game are so fun to create and I've even chiseled out a core team I like to use I've got a crow-winged rogue with a crystal eye, a mystic with an elm soul and a wolf-faced warrior. The augmentations which physical change the characters are maybe my favorite thing about this game.
Will there ever be headgear in the game? And, could we get a family tree/dynasty system eventually? I know our heroes can already have children, but i'd love to see more detailed families, and two heroes having a child together. Love the game, keep up the great work!
Hats - they're a bit complicated, but probably not impossible. We've talked it over a few times but it's just never been our main priority yet. More detailed families sounds super fun. Folk Heroes on our discord can vote on dev priorities, so, if it's what the council wants (and we think it will make the game better), we'll build it.
So ive played through the intro chapters and I have to say it was absolutely brilliant the characters, 6 by the end ( i was lucky didn't lose anyone on J K Rowling diff. level) where actually really cool, memorable and now theyre added to my legacy. Awesome job guys :D
100 years of peace, which is all any Hero can ask really...
So i'm unsure how to unlock the final mission for the chapter. I've cleared all the current tiles and whatnot and it says that I haven't unlocked the final assault. It might be due to a save and loading issue, but I'm unsure about it. I am unsure if this is supposed to be a game feature or it is a possible minor issue the game might have. I'd like to see if it could be fixed if it is an issue.
Other than that, the game is quite fun to play. Thanks.
Definitely sounds like a bug, press F11 to bring up the feedback tool, and maybe include the save game (there should be a checkbox for this) in the report, and I'll take a look and get back to you. (If you don't see a checkbox for that, then you're not on the latest version, you can check for updates in the itch app or download the latest (as of this morning). )
Ok, I think I see what happened, it's a bug that I think was caused by certain stories (sweltering stars or gone ox?) creating a site as an outcome, where the site is outside the current map. This was left over from way back, before we switched to a tile-based overland map. Those events need to be changed, and we'll also add some code to detect and fix these issues in save games, like yours. That will be in the next patch, which is probably sometime next week.
Also I noticed a couple crash logs, those are graphics related. Updating to the latest graphics drivers from the manufacturer might resolve them.
Just finished the tutorial campaign and checked online to find a new update? Sweet, from my experience I haven't personally noticed any crashes. My only peeve happened to be the story bits. During the in-between time of a chapter the "daughter" of one of my original heroes joins my party. Only the game doesn't seem to recognize the family bond? No mention of their connection appears in the relationship tab, and an event occurred wherein the daughter meets her "mother" at the pub. Not the heroic mother but an off-brand rng character it would seem. Breaks immersion but for sanity's sake, I'll just pretend she is adopted. There is no mention of her mother's heroic deeds in the daughter's history anyway. (That and the mother happened to be infatuated with another female hero.) Continuing on the vulture queen was an interesting event, I am not sure how my character became cursed but I loved this short tidbit of story. The disappointing thing would be how she is never mentioned again, would be interesting if later down the line the game expands on boss characters or villain like enemies that could.. reoccur per se. Like legacy heroes. Fighting the Arch-Gorgon was a little underwhelming. Enemies don't seem all that different except in health-pools, damage, and sheer numbers. (Two giant corrupted bears were less of a hassle than a swarm of the corrupted dear beast. I can slay two bears easy towards the end of the game, but the fear of a character being surrounded with a lack of action points to protect their self was more frightening.) I also noticed that some tidbits of information like abilities were presented well clearly out of game context. An example would be: ThisAbility45.ex or something of the short, but I am sure that is something you are working on as it is beta. One last mention would be the Scratchpad, you can be sure I noticed that it looks almost the same as you presented in a blog post once before. A shame really so maybe a tutorial via youtube or something of the sorts so we could better understand custom content. The idea is lovely and a better UI or explanation of the scratchpad for user made events would make this game fantastic.
PS: If you haven't seen already but a YouTuber by the name of nookrium has made a video or two on your game. Might be something worth checking out if your interested on a player's experience.
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah family relationships are not all they can be right now, I think we can definitely improve that. Boss monsters also need some design love. We will get to it pretty soon I hope. Scratchpad, and tools in general - if you're interested, there is a section on the wiki about how to use it, but yeah it is pretty.... complex... right now. I'd love to make it into more of a tool that anyone can use, I think it'd be really fun to see all the stories people make. Right now our focus is on bugs and quality of life issues, but we'll start thinking about the next big features soon, and if people are excited about tools, then that's what we'll do! Specifically, in our discord, council members will be able to vote on our next big development priority. I'll have a poll up in a few days if/when things settle down a bit on the bugs front.
Update came out and I got back on but its still crashing quite a bit. I was able to get past this one battle that just killed the game every time though so that's a plus! Finished the chapter and I've got my legacy going! Really excited to keep going just hope the crashes get even less frequent. I've not gotten far enough to see if this is a thing but I know we're able to rename our weapons and give it a description but it's disheartening to think that at the end of the game it is all deleted. If there was a way to make it so our new characters could randomly find old gear that'd be cool. You could make this legendary blade that had slayed various enemies which was used by several great heroes in the history of this place.
Yeah, legacy weapons would be cool! We want to do that at some point, for sure. I'll take a look and see if I can get anywhere with your crashes, I'll let you know what I find.
Hi I love the game but am also getting constant crashes which means I can no longer progress. Look forward to taking another shot at it when the issues are resolved.
Hi sure thing, I've sent them. It's no problem, it's beta, bound to be some teething problems. Especially when it's a small dev team etc. The game looks fantastic from what I've played, I'm sure it's going to be a great success.
Yeah, I keep getting crashes as well. It started when I finished the tutorial and now it crashes when I try to load back into it, or begin a new group. I can send you the logs. It looks amazing though, and what I did play was really incredible. Happy to pay for it and be a part of the process!
I had just gotten my third character going when the game blacked out on me! I'm so upset I can't get it to go again! What I did play though was great I was completely in the game I didn't even realize I was late for my class...
I went ahead and got the files ready just wanted to be sure I actually contacted you before I sent your files to someone by accident, it wouldn't be the first time I've done that.
The immersion factor of this game is amazing! As a writer I've been waiting for a game like this for a LONG time. It's awesome so far and I only have two hours involved.
Bummer. I guess the combat structure's not for everyone. If you can push through, I'd love to hear your other feedback! If you're just not having fun I'll be happy to refund you.
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Got this because sheepdog samurai. great introduction to the game and glad to have seen it on youtube. Those that know, know.
If anyone is interested - game runs on Linux under Wine perfectly.
Even more, it runs natively, albeit without sound due to not having Linux libraries in FMOD.
What interesting is that fmod-jni.jar seems to be build with Mac libraries. So if someone have Mac Book on hands you may try run this game on it. (!!!No guaranties as I have no idea how Mac works with OpenGL!!!).
Games seems like a lot of fun (around 2 hours in) and in very good shape for a beta. All minor problems already outlined in comments below. (Especially agreed on high variability in mystic usefulness)
Hey, that's awesome that it works in Wine!
The game has been working on mac internally for a while, and we plan to support mac and linux soon. Glad you're having a good time!
Heya. I finally got the game yesterday morning. Straight away: brilliant job, I love the art style and storybook character of it all. I also spent way too many hours on it right off the bat. Since this is a beta I wanted to share some first observations I made along the way and question that formed for me:
- Transformations. As far as I could tell the only one that seemed to have an impact other than visuals so far was the fire-touched. Turned my archer right into an epic sneak thief with fireballs. Not everything necessarily has to be so drastic, obviously, but is it planned for crow-touched and so on to have some effects (maybe just a stat boost or something) as well?
- Family relations & bosses have already been mentioned by others, so I'll just include them to second that. Could generally use a bit more work. I ran into the "mother in the party, but meeting the random mother" event just as a poster below. It was quite funny.
- Related to that, how about a way to *remove* members from the party permanently? Either by rejecting them or sending older ones off to early retirement. A "send away / home" button of sorts. Right now, things get very cluttered in chapter 4 & 5. If I'm only really using my "main 5", personally, I'd like a way to send off most others (other than getting them killed on purpose, which so far seems to be the only way to do it).
- Going with that: I'm not sure what I think of "child of hero X" that joins the party having a set class. It always seems to be one I *don't* need at that moment, like that 3rd mystic no one asked for. Then again, this has forced me to play some unusual party combinations I wouldn't have tried otherwise - which might be the intention? I can definitely live with it if that's the case, but I also see the potential for it to be an annoyance for someone less flexible or creative with builds. Not everyone will think just to stick a bow and that 3rd mystic. A compromise could be a special event or place where someone can be re-trained into another class. Stick a hefty LP cost on it (will probably reset their level as well, because of the abilities) so players would still be highly encouraged to instead make do with what they have, but the possibility would be there. Just an idea off the top of my head.
- Mystics. They can be brilliant - and then there are those 5 battles in a row, where all that's around is stone and "calcify". It's not a problem, just an observation of (probably) bad RNG luck. I've gone to sticking a bow on all my mystics in case. Maybe this situation could be helped by rethinking the spells available a bit. Like a "minor stone throw" added next to calcify, something on plants.. just so they can stick to their role and still be useful, even if it's just shredding armour or a crowd control ability like "shackle" for example ("entangle" on plants, say). Nothing that effects the balance too much, obviously. Just something for them to do within their class abilities.
- Glitches: I only came across a single one through the 2 campaigns I've played so far. In the story panel where your character becomes flame-touched. There's story, then the battle for that tile, and after that more story. In the one after the fight, another party member commented on my flame-touched character and "if we're just going to ignore this" - except they weren't actually talking to my flame-touched as intended. The panel showed another character (one that became infected with the green-stuff.. elm-touched? way earlier), and that elm-touched one responded as if they were the flame-touched person. An obvious mix-up.
Bit of a textwall, but hopefully helpful as well. Away from these, I really don't have anything to say for now other than I'm having a great time playing. I'll check back with feedback if I notice something else though. :)
Thanks for this, good feedback!
* Yeah, transformations, we do want those to be game changers. We'll work on making them more flavorful.
* family and bosses definitely.
* removing members - interesting, I like the idea of early retirement that gives you campaign-level bonuses, like, "go found a new town" or "set up a dojo" or something like that.
* more control over children - that makes sense, but feels less urgent than some of the other priorities... Something we'd want to get around to eventually though
* mystics - yeah... some mystic abilities (ignite, arches) try to solve this, but I hear what you're saying... I wonder if Calcify could give +physical damage instead of +warding, which is sortof garbage on mystics anyway..... weird thought.... then your mystic could shift to being a melee beast in the right circumstances...
* field of fire bug - we are tracking that one, should have a fix in next patch. Bugfixes will always be high priority.
Glad you're enjoying the game!
I'm definitely looking forward to that, the transformation idea is really cool. Rest sounds good as well. I like the idea for both early retirement and the mystic (as long as it's still balanced, obviously). The children really aren't much of a priority, just something I noticed.
Just keep up the good work. :)
Are there any plans for a Mobile release? This looks like it'd be something fun to play on my Android phone.
Hm not planned currently, but also not out of the realm of possibility. It would be a lot of work to adapt our interface to be mobile friendly, but/and maybe we could make some simplifactions also. If we are successful, we'll strongly consider it.
The characters in this game are so fun to create and I've even chiseled out a core team I like to use I've got a crow-winged rogue with a crystal eye, a mystic with an elm soul and a wolf-faced warrior. The augmentations which physical change the characters are maybe my favorite thing about this game.
Nice!
Im loving this game, im glad i found you guys. :D
Awesome, we're glad too!
Will there ever be headgear in the game?
And, could we get a family tree/dynasty system eventually? I know our heroes can already have children, but i'd love to see more detailed families, and two heroes having a child together. Love the game, keep up the great work!
Hats - they're a bit complicated, but probably not impossible. We've talked it over a few times but it's just never been our main priority yet. More detailed families sounds super fun.
Folk Heroes on our discord can vote on dev priorities, so, if it's what the council wants (and we think it will make the game better), we'll build it.
will this game be available for mac
Yes! We hope to have that out in a few weeks or so, and Linux too (unless we hit some unforseen problems).
Okay PERFECT because i got this game without realizing because of how badly i wanted to play a game like what i saw from SplatterCat's video on it.
Words cannot express the joy I get from playing this game. And to think it's not the full release yet.
Love your fire chicken! Thanks for playing! We're really excited to keep piling on the content.
So ive played through the intro chapters and I have to say it was absolutely brilliant the characters, 6 by the end ( i was lucky didn't lose anyone on J K Rowling diff. level) where actually really cool, memorable and now theyre added to my legacy. Awesome job guys :D
100 years of peace, which is all any Hero can ask really...
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!
So i'm unsure how to unlock the final mission for the chapter. I've cleared all the current tiles and whatnot and it says that I haven't unlocked the final assault. It might be due to a save and loading issue, but I'm unsure about it. I am unsure if this is supposed to be a game feature or it is a possible minor issue the game might have. I'd like to see if it could be fixed if it is an issue.
Other than that, the game is quite fun to play. Thanks.
Definitely sounds like a bug, press F11 to bring up the feedback tool, and maybe include the save game (there should be a checkbox for this) in the report, and I'll take a look and get back to you. (If you don't see a checkbox for that, then you're not on the latest version, you can check for updates in the itch app or download the latest (as of this morning). )
Thanks, I will take a look at this and get back to you tomorrow!
Ok, I think I see what happened, it's a bug that I think was caused by certain stories (sweltering stars or gone ox?) creating a site as an outcome, where the site is outside the current map. This was left over from way back, before we switched to a tile-based overland map. Those events need to be changed, and we'll also add some code to detect and fix these issues in save games, like yours. That will be in the next patch, which is probably sometime next week.
Also I noticed a couple crash logs, those are graphics related. Updating to the latest graphics drivers from the manufacturer might resolve them.
Thank you for reporting this!
Cannot wait for the full release!
The game is already so enjoyable ^^
Thanks!! It's great to finally be sharing our work, looking forward to much more!
Just finished the tutorial campaign and checked online to find a new update? Sweet, from my experience I haven't personally noticed any crashes. My only peeve happened to be the story bits. During the in-between time of a chapter the "daughter" of one of my original heroes joins my party. Only the game doesn't seem to recognize the family bond? No mention of their connection appears in the relationship tab, and an event occurred wherein the daughter meets her "mother" at the pub. Not the heroic mother but an off-brand rng character it would seem. Breaks immersion but for sanity's sake, I'll just pretend she is adopted. There is no mention of her mother's heroic deeds in the daughter's history anyway. (That and the mother happened to be infatuated with another female hero.) Continuing on the vulture queen was an interesting event, I am not sure how my character became cursed but I loved this short tidbit of story. The disappointing thing would be how she is never mentioned again, would be interesting if later down the line the game expands on boss characters or villain like enemies that could.. reoccur per se. Like legacy heroes. Fighting the Arch-Gorgon was a little underwhelming. Enemies don't seem all that different except in health-pools, damage, and sheer numbers. (Two giant corrupted bears were less of a hassle than a swarm of the corrupted dear beast. I can slay two bears easy towards the end of the game, but the fear of a character being surrounded with a lack of action points to protect their self was more frightening.) I also noticed that some tidbits of information like abilities were presented well clearly out of game context. An example would be: ThisAbility45.ex or something of the short, but I am sure that is something you are working on as it is beta. One last mention would be the Scratchpad, you can be sure I noticed that it looks almost the same as you presented in a blog post once before. A shame really so maybe a tutorial via youtube or something of the sorts so we could better understand custom content. The idea is lovely and a better UI or explanation of the scratchpad for user made events would make this game fantastic.
PS: If you haven't seen already but a YouTuber by the name of nookrium has made a video or two on your game. Might be something worth checking out if your interested on a player's experience.
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah family relationships are not all they can be right now, I think we can definitely improve that. Boss monsters also need some design love. We will get to it pretty soon I hope. Scratchpad, and tools in general - if you're interested, there is a section on the wiki about how to use it, but yeah it is pretty.... complex... right now. I'd love to make it into more of a tool that anyone can use, I think it'd be really fun to see all the stories people make. Right now our focus is on bugs and quality of life issues, but we'll start thinking about the next big features soon, and if people are excited about tools, then that's what we'll do! Specifically, in our discord, council members will be able to vote on our next big development priority. I'll have a poll up in a few days if/when things settle down a bit on the bugs front.
Update came out and I got back on but its still crashing quite a bit. I was able to get past this one battle that just killed the game every time though so that's a plus! Finished the chapter and I've got my legacy going! Really excited to keep going just hope the crashes get even less frequent. I've not gotten far enough to see if this is a thing but I know we're able to rename our weapons and give it a description but it's disheartening to think that at the end of the game it is all deleted. If there was a way to make it so our new characters could randomly find old gear that'd be cool. You could make this legendary blade that had slayed various enemies which was used by several great heroes in the history of this place.
Yeah, legacy weapons would be cool! We want to do that at some point, for sure. I'll take a look and see if I can get anywhere with your crashes, I'll let you know what I find.
Hi I love the game but am also getting constant crashes which means I can no longer progress. Look forward to taking another shot at it when the issues are resolved.
Can you zip up your logs and send them to wildermyth at gmail dot com? Sorry about all this :-(
Hi sure thing, I've sent them. It's no problem, it's beta, bound to be some teething problems. Especially when it's a small dev team etc. The game looks fantastic from what I've played, I'm sure it's going to be a great success.
Yeah, I keep getting crashes as well. It started when I finished the tutorial and now it crashes when I try to load back into it, or begin a new group. I can send you the logs. It looks amazing though, and what I did play was really incredible. Happy to pay for it and be a part of the process!
Yeah please do send me the logs and I'll take a look, sorry about that!
Send them to wildermyth at gmail dot com
I had just gotten my third character going when the game blacked out on me! I'm so upset I can't get it to go again! What I did play though was great I was completely in the game I didn't even realize I was late for my class...
Oh no! you can zip up your logs folder and send it me, I'll try to get it fixed. We should have a patch coming in a few days or so.
Send them to wildermyth at gmail dot com
I went ahead and got the files ready just wanted to be sure I actually contacted you before I sent your files to someone by accident, it wouldn't be the first time I've done that.
The immersion factor of this game is amazing! As a writer I've been waiting for a game like this for a LONG time. It's awesome so far and I only have two hours involved.
Glad you like it!
will we be able to add this to our steam library when beta is over?
Yes, we will get that hooked up one of these months!
Awesome! Keep up the good work!
Really enjoying the beta, keep it up!
thanks!
Grid based? Turn based? Cool art style! Love it. Simultaneous turns where all player characters go then all enemies go? Hate it. :(
Bummer. I guess the combat structure's not for everyone. If you can push through, I'd love to hear your other feedback! If you're just not having fun I'll be happy to refund you.
Awesome attitude!